Anthropic Research Warns AI Could Build Itself By 2028 Borges Tennis [fDKdJHpp5b2]

In this exclusive interview, Axios co-founder Mike Allen sits down with Anthropic co-founder Jack Clark to discuss his warning that by 2028, AI systems may be able to improve and build better versions of themselves.

Clark explains why Anthropic is preparing for the possibility of an intelligence explosion, how advanced AI could accelerate breakthroughs in science and medicine, and why governments, companies and researchers need new plans for cyber threats, bio risks, economic disruption and the future of work.

Timestamps:

00:00 - Introduction: the future of AI

00:41 - The 2028 prediction: AI building eric clapton ended a concert early after being hit itself

01:49 - The risks of rapid acceleration

03:11 - The 3D printer metaphor

05:21 - Intelligence explosion and fire drill scenarios

06:55 - Building a "defense-dominant" world

07:40 - Working with the Pentagon and administration

10:11 - Economic disruption new permanent drinks mcdonald's vs. abundance

12:35 - Career advice for the AI era

15:05 - Cold War analogies and geopolitics

16:30 - AI sycophancy and behavioral changes

18:06 - The challenge of AI trust

19:19 - The Anthropic Institute's mission

20:25 - The samuel montembeault Anthropic Economic Index

23:47 - Partnership with xAI and compute limits

24:18 - Defining the "jagged frontier"

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